rT Twinz Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 think would be a good idea but hard for new members as they trying to keep up with cb requiments think it would be good idea tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Maul Yu Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I think this is all a great plan, including the 80 stat requirement and 90 cb, may i ask are there plenty of barragers? I am currently range and melee based and am not sure whether to try get mage aswell or grind up my other stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authority Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Speaking a about masses specifically, rcb and msb are underpowered, when up against another large team rangers should at least have chins. Yes rs rcb is powerful and can help kill 1 person, but barraging or Channing stacks is where the power is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blockeduser Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 i think the rangers have good dmg output and they can do it from a range so i think it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 most people that get the kills are nig rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiler Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I support this very much. I feel like people with barrage who waste money on runes, and then 1 style rangers just steal the loot. its disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camesko21 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 +1 to this dammit. Losing so many kills and shit because people are literally not listening to "Do not hit them if you don't have a freeze". I agree. At least blitz should be mandatory. Literally ANYONE who's a serious pker has blitz or barrage. If you don't you're just silly. I mean, if you want to do that shit on your own time whatever. But for massing up... grab freezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
play ranges Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) There are couple issues that need to be addressed here. 1) Mages wasting barrage runes and not getting kills. It would be hard to argue that freezes are not critical to getting multi kills. In multi, the problem is many mages autocast blitz/barrage and end up using plenty of runes. If a mage froze or tbed, they should be given a split of the loot - regardless of who gets the kill. However, it is amateur skill level if you are simply autocasting blitz/barrage in single or multi. It should always be freeze then melee/range and refreeze. I am stunned by the amount of people who wasted their runes with the autocast freezes. And it is these same noobs who say "I used 300 spells that trip, gimme all runes and better splits". I have seen some mages hassle a few rangers/meleers for basically all the items from the kill using this faulty logic. All our pking comes down to trust, generosity amd teamwork - and when some people are there just for the loot, it spoils the trip for everyone. 2) 1 style v/s multiple styles This one is a little trickier to handle. As a general rule, it is a great idea to have multiple combat styles. However, this is deadman mode and plenty of pkers in our clan have decided to specialize in range or melee, and protect these stats. In multi, it is more about the damage stacks and getting the opponent to run out of supplies, rather than the awesome dds special or dbolt hit. There is also a substantial benefit in having greater numbers when facing another team. With this in mind, I have to say that everyone should be able to do high damage and be able to tank in a multi pking environment; and argue that this is more important than having multiple combat styles. I am deeply troubled that many of our single pkers are no longer willing to risk a death or even fight in multi now that they have plenty of unprotected stats. (and frankly, I totally understand where they are coming from) However, we are a multi clan first and foremost, and it is imperative that you consider this when joining AC deadman. We do have a great singles unit (ACE) that is getting together, but single pking may not be for everyone. Personally, I would rather fight a max mage team at lava dragons in a 5 v 5, than single areas like the camelot telly spot. I like my odds better. Then again, the stats I rely on are protected and my deaths are all part of the game. Just a different way to play this game mode I guess... For me, I do plan to raise my magic up and protect range and mage in the future, but am reluctant with my current pvm, pking and skilling habits. I have noticed that some people are completely devastated on death, and I simply cannot play this game with such caution and fear. Taking calculated risks is part of my motivation to keep playing deadman, and if I had to scout every place before I went there, I would be bored in no time. I would not recommend everyone bringing magic in multi, but rather focusing on the stats that they do the most damage. Just remember to share if you get help from someone - a team member, a mage or a scout. This little kindness will go a long way to show others what AC deadman is all about! Merry Christmas everyone. On 12/22/2015 at 11:20 AM, 1nvis said: In multi trips using black dhide / rcb has nothing wrong with it. It's cheap, It hits hard (dragon bolts) and causes for easy KO's. Yeah, I agree. On 12/22/2015 at 11:37 AM, AC Sticky said: It's required to have a minimum of 500k in deposit, that's enough for Mystics and runes + dhide and bolts. We are a PK clan not a welfare multi clan. It's good because we will soon become a singles clan I like this idea, but I would rather have AC remain the best multi pking clan instead of an average singles team. We will struggle in single, and I am not sure if we will be able to compete in popular single areas. Plus, people need to upgrade gear/supplies for singles pking. We can't be there in our standard multi setup, need escape routes and noted sharks. Love the idea of killing Wiggled or a RoT member, but not sure if we are there yet. Maybe on the seasonal deadman servers? Edited December 24, 2015 by play ranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsDaily Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 should be the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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